HF with rams is really fun lol. I think a lot of the reasons people don't play this map hardly at all is because of the high tendency to camp. Which turns into a very, very long game. All tech + rams would be more fun and more competitive imo.

Oooo my god if this way brilliant this one the map but good observation if it is because mas people play mas since they vote

Brilliant this one to reduce a bit the map to have only the vile one to the beginning in order that a bit difficult this one

totally agree angel

make it all tech and remove turks special tech and all your problems will be solved

The reason it worked (somewhat) better in aok is because turks didn't have their special tech.

I agree though, rams definately improve this map.

Rams only (10 votes [41.67%])
Percentage of vote: 41.67%

Rams + All Techs (10 votes [41.67%])
Percentage of vote: 41.67%

Keep it like that (4 votes [16.67%])
Percentage of vote: 16.67%


tied at all tech/no all tech lol

add rams only
all tech will destroy the originality of the map and turn it into an awkward mix between cba, cba hero, and the original map.

all tech would also remove the +2 extra range turk bbts get from unique technology, which makes turk castles and bbts have the same range

Is there no option for 'this map is highly unsuitable for random TG with any changes but would be OK for 1v1 and 2v2?

i think as long as it has rams then its fair, if ur enemy has a stronger civi offensively than u, then u can play defensively

if they add changes, the essence of herofest be lost

This is the eternal problem.

Change a map and the people who hate it still hate it and a percentage of the people who like it will hate the edit.

I enjoyed playing the ram edit. Rams won't fix post Khan issues when it comes to sabs.

I could not have said this better myself

Banning bbt makes totally no sense.
And yea turks should have normal range